Crossover between money programs — everyone is welcome, with caveats

As we planned these events: Bill and I committed to following the principles we're sharing with you during the workshop cycle to the best of our ability. To that end, we reviewed and are doing our best to adhere to DA's "Guide to Special Events," available at Because I have had several heartfelt one-one conversations about the separation of the various money programs and resources in the past week, I thought you might be interested in the foundation for some of our decisions about these BDA workshops.

More information about these posts: By the way, please note that the comments are being left on for all posts to start. Unless things get out of hand like purposely breaking the principles or workshop participants getting into internal conflict and controversy at group level — the option to comment will be left on. We may not delete posts from cycle-to-cycle, though, so please only make comments you're willing to leave behind when we've completed our spiritual work together.

Back to the main topic: From our weekly workshop script: "We ask that only DA, BDA, and AA literature, along with the workshop materials we’ve prepared, be read from and referred to during these workshops. We especially ask that details from other money‐related programs and services not be shared here. Please respect our DA Traditions."

Also in the weekly script: "In addition to business owners, we welcome any DA and/or BDA member who is interested in practicing our spiritual principles in your work life. Practicing our 3rd Tradition — 'The only requirement for DA membership is a desire to stop incurring unsecured debt.' — we trust you, as a fellow debtor, to decide if these workshops are where you belong. We also welcome Class B non-debtor trustees, both past and present, to join us at any time."

Here's the bottom line: Unless you are committed to maintaining a life and business funded through debting:

As a reminder, here are the DA Traditions from the DA Manual of Service (and downloadable on our contact page). Below them, we have provided an excerpt from DA service material which guides our practice of the Traditions when hosting events, especially fundraisers.

From DA's "Guide to Special Events," available at

The Traditions and Events

All the Traditions are important guides for planning and carrying out events. A few are highlighted here for consideration.

Tradition 5

Each group has but one primary purposeto carry its message to the debtor who still

suffers. By maintaining focus on the fifth Tradition, the planning group will ensure that the event will truly provide [DA and BDA] 12-Step service.

Tradition 6

A DA group ought never endorse, finance, or lend the DA name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property and prestige divert us from our primary purpose. The more mindful the event committee is of this Tradition when deciding the format and venue for the event, the more successful the event will be. This Tradition is also critical for spreading the word for the event to other DA members while being careful not to imply an association or authorization for the event by Debtors Anonymous as a whole. This Tradition also is a good reminder to avoid topics from outside sources and to avoid using non-conference approved literature at events.

Tradition 7

Every DA group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions.

Events are sometimes held with the intent of raising funds ... When selling tickets to

an event such as this, it is important that it only be promoted to members of DA,

ensuring that an outside contribution is not inadvertently accepted from a person that is

not a member of the fellowship.

Tradition 8

Debtors Anonymous should remain forever non-professional, but our service centers

may employ special workers. This Tradition reminds the committee to avoid any compensation to DA members acting as members of PRGs or any other service that might be seen as Twelfth Step work. A suggested donation to the event would be more appropriate than charging members for services.

Tradition 9

DA, as such, ought never be organized; but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve. This Tradition is a good reminder to the trusted servants on the event planning committee and the people providing service during the event that they are responsible to the members attending the event.

Note: For these workshops, Bill and I are the planning committee, and we take our responsibility to all of you very seriously. Thank you for reading this post!

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